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Cyruss 
Feb 11, 2024

Comments:
Geez shahin that looks yummy
 
فقر طبقاتى إيجاب ميكنه كه ما بهً805 بسنده كنيم


Cyruss 
Feb 11, 2024

Comments:
Winning the cup or events by the host nation have always been subject to controversy. Shit happens and I don’t doubt it. The hosts millions time after time , so a little home field/ court advantage shouldn’t be surprising.
 
But my issue is looking at this so one sided. Didn’t we do it before when we had the chance of hosting? So many stories of “ our hosting “ that didn’t go well with our competitors.
 
1968. Israelis felt cheated. Before that Burma was complaining about one sided officiating in favor of Iran
 
1976-Kuwait was unhappy about officiating
 
In koshti many of our world level medals were questionable
 
1974 Asian games- Sepahbod hojat , then chief of Tarbiat badani, at the midst of Asian games, lobbied to chang the rules to count the number of medals in team sports by number of team members, hence our 2 golds in waterpolo and football became 35! And we finished ahead of China in the standings. For the first and last time!
 
 
Yes, we have also been victims of seemingly unfair situations and calls.
 
But it is my observation that not many make such a fuss about these situations except middle eastern, particularly Iranian and Iraqis.
 
 
Sometime in 80s I was in Netherlands with a group of friends. We encountered a group of young Iranian men ended up having beer with them. The subject of football was naturally introduced and 78 WC.
 
The Iranian guys were more vociferous and emotional in accusing Argentina of having cheated to the WC title. Valid subject. But the level of anger shocked the Dutch friends! They could care less. It was forgotten. To them , it was about moving forward


Shahin 
Feb 11, 2024

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Coke 
Feb 11, 2024

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Qatar won it in my opinion robbing Jordan. Three pk goals looks suspect no matter what Faghani says.
Btw Faghani created hashiyeh for TM with his poor referring


Shahin 
Feb 11, 2024

Comments:
Not yet Farzad. Just came back from walking the dog after I came back from SF watching my son play soccer. I feel really good about the day


Farzad 
Feb 11, 2024

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So the worst team of round of 16 in AFCON, Ivory coast the host wins the tournament. And the best team of round of 16, Qatar the host wins the Asian Cup.
 
The surprise here is Qatar😂


Farzad 
Feb 11, 2024

Comments:
No shahin. It was real. She also says a few words later. Like Keshti (boat)


Ahmad_DC 
Feb 11, 2024

Comments:
Farzad jan, my email address has not changed.   Please try again and I will give you more details.  Generally speaking, I am doing great and recovering well.


Shahin 
Feb 11, 2024

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Farzad:
I thought it was hoosh Masnoui not Jeannie


Farzad 
Feb 11, 2024

Comments:
Shahin. Have you started your Mexican Mule?


Farzad 
Feb 11, 2024

Comments:
"If I was the ref I would have called that a penalty and then let the VAR correct me. It was a close one."
 
But KAmkAr. Your angle and my angle is from TV. Ref happened to be right there. The other thing ref goes by is the angle the ball is moving after the incident. And the route the ball took could have only happened if Qatari player touched the ball.
 
Anyways Faghani said he whistled in favor of iran. 1) Not calling the Pk (VAR had to interfere) and Faghani said even after VAR it was not a PK. 2) giving only yellow to Shoja (and VAR had to convince him to give Shoja a red).
 
These are not signs of biased ref.


Farzad 
Feb 11, 2024

Comments:
KAmkAr. No one acknowledged that the first words coming out of Geannie was in farsi. At 2:25. I was shocked.


Cyruss 
Feb 11, 2024

Comments:
Farzad: I remember like it was yesterday!
It wasn’t just Fanaii, I remember Azizi being part of that smuggling operation:) as well as another player that I don’t remember:)
Fanaii’s dive to the back of van was phenomenal. If he ever dove like that in his games, no one would have mentioned abed or beiro as the second best goalie of Iran ever :)
Enjoy your game guys. Shahin treasure these moments with your kids ( they will always be kids) . It would get harder and harder to have these moments!
Farzad: have a blast with sha gholam. Please relay my
مراتب ارادت
We are still due for that lunch!
Go 9 years!


kAmkAr  
Feb 11, 2024

Comments:
Farzad, thanks for your VAR explanation. If I was the ref I would have called that a penalty and then let the VAR correct me. It was a close one. From the angle he was it would have been hard to tell who touched the ball first. Even the commentators initially thought it was a penalty.


Shahin 
Feb 11, 2024

Comments:
wow looks great. Noosh jan


kAmkAr  
Feb 11, 2024

Comments:
Farzad, I had seen the Jeannie clip long ago. That was one my most favorite sitcom. As a teen I used this that she's the most beautiful actress on TV.


Farzad 
Feb 11, 2024

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Farzad 
Feb 11, 2024

Comments:
وااااای. ببین چی شد.
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Shahin 
Feb 11, 2024

Comments:
Cyruss: As I said before I am not comfortable with damet garm club but damet garm [smile]

What moozigari? [smile]

Yes we do want our team win because of sense of pride which will dissipate in 2 days. The opposite is true as well when our team loses but human tend to look for emotional high all the time but this is at least relatively harmless if you can move on from it quickly.

Best news today is my son not going to watch the game with bunch of buddies in a bar in SF and come home to watch it with me. My daughter will be around as well for Taylor. My wife will be out shopping though

Go 49 YEARS!!


Farzad 
Feb 11, 2024

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There should be no Ref or VAR controversy in this game. Both are poorer than Qatar. No objection whatsoever.


Farzad 
Feb 11, 2024

Comments:
Ok. Nigeria vs Ivory Coast. Ivory Coast coach got fired after the group stage.


Farzad 
Feb 11, 2024

Comments:
DC jan. Sent you an email but was not delivered. Just wanted to know how you were doing. I used the email you use on this site.


Farzad 
Feb 11, 2024

Comments:
Cyruss
Thanks for the kind words. I do learn so much from Shahin and Bardia myself. But Cyruss don't sell yourself short, you have done wonders bringing iran football to surface outside of Iran, almost like 30 years. I remember in 2000 or was it 1999 we were in Pasadena Hilton hanging around with TM.
Remember Amirghasemi's van and Dovood Fanaei TM goalkeeper?


Farzad 
Feb 11, 2024

Comments:
Shahin. Speaking of Super Ball, my friend in Bay Area still thinks they are called 49 Years😂😂😂😀😂.
 
Hopefully everyone knows why they are called 49ers. If they don't I am not surprised. 😀


Farzad 
Feb 11, 2024

Comments:
سیروس جان. مشکل بعضی‌ها فهمیدن نیست، ترس از فهمیدنه.

That is what shahin calls bubble and how outside of the bubble is so scary for them. 

شاه غلامو‌ میخوام ببرم سوپر بول ببینه.
 
BTW it is Super Bowl and not Super Ball. 😂😂😂


Cyruss 
Feb 11, 2024

Comments:
Shahin, I think you would like this:
I received a message from the endowment this morning at the midst of your discussions on psychology of different perceptions on the same sporting event. The lengthy message basically implied that we all need to see our teams wins, because of our mental health demand the gratification of victory.
And the message ended as:
Having said all that, go 49ers!


Cyruss  
Feb 11, 2024

Comments:
One of the attractions of having Shahin and Farzad here, despite occasional moozigari:), is the educational aspect of their educational and informative posts. I have always had this gratitude towards those who cared to educate!
Viewing and being part of different Ifp’s , meeting many of the personalities, I think I can credit these two most in terms of substantive information, rather than hoopla and emotional “ gheirati” rhetorics.! Ali P which I miss , also was a good source of information


Farzad 
Feb 11, 2024

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Photoshop is not AI.


Farzad 
Feb 11, 2024

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KAmkAr
 
 
Again, here is how VAR works.
 
 
1- goal and offside review is done by goal line and offside line technology and does not require Ref's review. Always. No ref review.
 
 
2- The whole 90 minutes is under meticulous review by VAR crew.
 
 
3- If anything requires more review they will let the ref know that something is under review. if the review is quick enough and obvious like the no foul on Taremi then they just continue.
 
 
4- if after review the decision is unanimous and in line with the call on the field they continue and they don't call ref for review.
 
 
5- if after review the decision is not unanimous (2-1 in a 3 person crew) or (3-2 in 5 person review) or if VAR crew unanimously are against the Ref's call, then they call the ref to come and look and make the final call.
 
 
The review in person by ref is for 1- Questionable handball pk inside 18, 2- questionable Foul PK inside 18, or 3- questionable red card. The ref is not required to review whether the foul occurred inside 18 or outside. That is done by line technology.
 
 
And lastly according to Faghani in Footbalitarin, All PKs in favor of Qatar were correct. He concluded that without the VAR interference the score would have been 1-1 in the regulation and with VAR it is 3-1 and that is the correct final score.


Shahin 
Feb 11, 2024

Comments:
Farzad:
Outside the bubble is a very scary world 😂


Shahin 
Feb 11, 2024

Comments:
I guess AI was not used in the PK that was called for us 😂
Digital graphic manipulation is not called AI. All you need for that is a desktop software.


Farzad 
Feb 11, 2024

Comments:
یه موقعی کار کار انگلیسا بود
بعد شد کار کار روسا بود
بعد شد سی آی ای. کار کار سی آی ای بود
الان هم‌شده‌کار کار ای آی (هوش مصنوعی) هستش 😀😀😀
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به هر حال خدا شفا بده. به قولی، خدا یه عقلی به بقیه بده و یه پولی به‌شاهین.


Farzad 
Feb 11, 2024

Comments:
Shahin. As you said Qatar had an easy path. Just wanted to note that typically group A which includes the host has easier path. AFCON scheme was the same. And same scenario for the top 4 best 3rd place. Same route as Asian cup.
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But in AFCON the host Ivory coast finished 3rd in group A. 3 points and -3 goal difference. They were practically eliminated. And they fired the coach. But the results of last day of group stage panned out such that Ivory Coast made it as the last 3rd place team. And now they are in finals.


Farzad 
Feb 11, 2024

Comments:
AFCON Final
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Nigeria vs Ivory Coast. Noon pacific.


Farzad 
Feb 11, 2024

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KAmkAr
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Did you watch that
دختر شاه پریان
Video? First 3 min specially at 2:25


kAmkAr 
Feb 11, 2024

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If that ball would have turned into a goal, BV could have been credited with the assist.


kAmkAr 
Feb 11, 2024

Comments:
Farzad, I change my mind. I guess my wishful thinking side saw the touching of the ball by Taremi. Now that I look at it looked like a clean tackle. 
Taremi's mistake was that his first touch of the ball was to his right. Had his first touch would have been slightly to the left then he sure could have put the ball in the net.


Farzad 
Feb 11, 2024

Comments:

The video footage and pictures are clear and all post game expert views the same.  All of these are VARed.  They did and they rightfully found nothing. Everything is under the microscope of VAR. Just because they don’t call ref that does not mean it did not happen. They saw it, like I saw it, and play on. Even during the game for good 2-3 minutes they talked about this that how correct of a no call it was.  Taremi did not even protest or making comments during the game and after the game. 

The defender clearly tackles the ball first. Any contact after the clearance is not a foul. 

But if you see something different note it so we can see too. 


Farzad 
Feb 11, 2024

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kAmkAr  
Feb 11, 2024

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Farzad, there is no doubt that Taremi was fouled outside the 18 yards line. The Qatari defender should have gotten at least a yellow. I say yellow because there were other defenders around otherwise would have been a red. Only if they would have VARed that foul, then the goal would have been called back.


Farzad  
Feb 10, 2024

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Watch the first 3 min specially at 2:25 when he finds geannie
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Farzad  
Feb 10, 2024

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Shahin 
Feb 10, 2024

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So it’s the bubble problem


Farzad 
Feb 10, 2024

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Shahin. Here is the problem. They actually see that the foul occurred a good meter inside in the 18. They really do. I am not kidding.
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Shahin        
14 minutes ago
Comments:
I really like to understand as why we all see the same game and replays but draw different conclusions. It's interesting that it falls along our ideological and political views. Look at oon yeki very much in agreement that this is all a Qatar conspiracy. Look at here, and it is as mast ke bar mast with our fucked up team, management and country. This actually may explain the underlying factors as far as the differences and tensions between the two sites


Farzad 
Feb 10, 2024

Comments:
Shahin it is the Daei jan napoleon mentality. It is in the DNA. There is not much you can do. The video below is an objective evidence. The commentator after seeing the replay had to say wow "from that angle we thought it was a foul but from an excellent camera angle it was clear it was not a foul". And again he went on praising the ref and VAR for good two minutes listen up to 54:25 of the YouTube time. Now if anyone see something this clear differently then I don't know. Someone must have altered with replay equipment I guess. Or they took their time and the replay is some AI shit made up by VAR crew. What else can it be?


Farzad 
Feb 10, 2024

Comments:
https://www.youtube.com/live/pUiAOS6xzs8?si=_5ww8An4gToms0QR


Farzad 
Feb 10, 2024

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Shahin KAmkAr Cyruss. Watch at 51:53 below until 54:25. First the ball is outside 18 and secondly the Qatari defender get to the ball and hits the ball. Please also hear the commentary about it after that for good 2 minutes. Praising how good of a call it was and how VAR accurately checked it and no issues and they let things continue.
 
 


Shahin 
Feb 10, 2024

Comments:
I really like to understand as why we all see the same game and replays but draw different conclusions. It's interesting that it falls along our ideological and political views. Look at oon yeki very much in agreement that this is all a Qatar conspiracy. Look at here, and it is as mast ke bar mast with our fucked up team, management and country. This actually may explain the underlying factors as far as the differences and tensions between the two sites


Cyruss  
Feb 10, 2024

Comments:
Shahin, I saw that exciting finish by Curry. Definitely not offside, behind the arc and no need for VAR.


Shahin 
Feb 10, 2024

Comments:
good Warriors win tonight
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