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Shahin 
Aug 15, 2023

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"We can continue doing the same thing another 40 years and you and I will be dead and IRI still terrorizing our country"

So we can appease them perhaps in their 41st year they will stop terrorizing and it will be beautiful


Farzad 
Aug 15, 2023

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What a goal by Nashville


Shahin 
Aug 15, 2023

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Zinsky advocating the trickle down economy that I am sure he rejected when Reagan said it


Farzad 
Aug 15, 2023

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The alternative to sanctions is military action. According to UN resolutions chapter 7, you impose sanctions (article 41) against rogue countries. If no results you take other measures. Article 42. Military action.
They budgeted $5B to rescue Uremieh. God knows what happened to the $$$$. Now if they take this 6 B and just spend it on Uremieh a lot of people will be thankful for it and will attract sympathizers.


Shahin 
Aug 15, 2023

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Now you are making me mad and I can see you are not serious about this discussion or you have other motives. The only sanction related item in my post was the banking system. All the rest is about ideology


Zinsky  
Aug 15, 2023

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None of them could be achieved when under sanctions. That is my point. We have tried this for many years with no success. We can continue doing the same thing another 40 years and you and I will be dead and IRI still terrorizing our country.
We need a fresh approach. Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome is you know what!


Farzad 
Aug 15, 2023

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Monterey vs Nashville coming up. The winner plays Inter Miami in the leagues cup Final.


Shahin 
Aug 15, 2023

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Zinsky:

If you want to make a general and generic statement that we should have foreign investments, it is your choice. We can also claim that we have the smartest young people in the world and we should be a hub for technology like India & China again thats great. But sanctions are not the reason that we do not have these things. I just quickly put together a list of things required for us to participate in global economy and believe me it is not scientific but common sense. Without this, any investment in Iran is waste of money. I am sure many can add more requirements. 

1. Stop taking hostages so countries that can invest trust sending people to Iran. This is #1 requirement
2. Make life comfortable for foreign nationals & their families to live in Iran. Let them buy alcohol, go to to the beach without Hejab, let them have their own schools, etc. This all been tested in Saudi Arabia, UAE & Qatar
3. Work with the world banking system to establish a credit system so that companies can use credit letters and individuals can use credit cards. This requires some concession to US for removal of some of the financial sanctions
4. Make it attractive for people who had left Iran especially the experts to come back. This requires some concessions on ideological values
5. Anybody who has a dark spot for mohr on his forehead should not be in the government or in front line. It is very tacky
6. Promote arts and culture (not Islamic) with women out in front. This makes us look serious about joining the real world


Zinsky  
Aug 15, 2023

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My point is clear!

I'm not certain what would happen if we open Iran for business for a while (3-5 years minimum). I’m certain the current situation with max sanctions and then injecting $ billions every now and then has not been successful. IRI is still around and few are benefiting from it all. 

after nuclear agreement, there were some European companies that were willing to invest in Iran. I don’t know if they would stick around or get tired of the system. I don’t know and I can’t predict what would have happened.

all I know is that since pulling out of the agreement, things have gotten worse for people. 

we know what happened but can’t be sure what would have happened given enough time.

as I said, injecting money is not the solution. Giving people a chance might. 


Farzad 
Aug 15, 2023

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Farzad 
Aug 15, 2023

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I did not say 100%.
 
The only thing I said that is 100% is that those who run our country are bunch of dozd and gharatgar and they are no different than other gharatgars in our history who invaded, occupied, controlled, and raped our country. That I am 100% certain about these people. I do not need another 43 years to be proven otherwise.
 
I still don't understand your insistence on injecting money into the pockets of these thieves.
 
Baba 800 billion dollar AN sAkht. What happened to it. Ok 600 billion dollars (oil only). What happened? Dollar went from 900 to 3000 (3x). And poor got poorer.


Farzad 
Aug 15, 2023

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می گرچه حرامست؛ ولی تا که خورد؟
وانگاه چه مقدار و کی و با که خورد؟
این چهار چو شد جمع، چنین باید گفت
عاقل نخورد می، پس این می که خورد
https://www.tiktok.com/@farzinhd/video/7247880500285541633


Zinsky  
Aug 15, 2023

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Farzad,
I know I don’t know. You seem to be 100% sure it would not work. One thing I learned is that anyone who is 100% sure about anything, could be 100% wrong!


Farzad 
Aug 15, 2023

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Messi scored in every game he played for Inter.


Farzad 
Aug 15, 2023

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That was Barjam and many countries chose not to invest. Because the risk is always higher than the rewards in current iran.
 
For any investment you have to consider ROI plus Risk / reward ratio. Forget other countries. No one in iran can even invest on a football team.
 
In a mafia driven and a kaj o koleh country when the system is corrupt and backward and it is the land of the outlaws it is tough to get convinced to invest.
 
It takes years???!!! Who in a right mind would invest.
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