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Zinsky  
Aug 10, 2023

Comments:
kAmkAr,
Very good non specific answer. You are much smarter than me!
I assume any punishment including sanctions are designed to deter people or countries from doing something and do what the sanctioner (it that a word) want them to do. That seems like a logical conclusion.
Just like any project, it needs to be evaluated every now and then to ensure it’s on track. If it’s not doing what was intended, it is either designed wrong or executed poorly.
Timeline and deadlines are also critical. No project could go forever. After a while, one need to realize the failure and try something different.


Realist 
Aug 10, 2023

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Your tax money at work in Ukraine [biggrin]

https://www.tiktok.com/@zhadyftw/video/7264269921138330885


kAmkAr  
Aug 10, 2023

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Zinsky, was that a pop quiz? All I know is that the sanctions has been for the longest time an excuse for IRI to use for their many shortcomings. Furthermore the time during the Obama when sanctions were partially lifted, things got better in Syria, Iraq, and Palestine. Maybe somewhat in Iran too. Like you've always said, foreign policy is way too complicated.


Farzad 
Aug 10, 2023

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Is Reza Olangian part of the swap. He was my middle school friend in Rasht and we ended up going to same university in the US. He ended up becoming a Hezbollahi. He is imprisoned here in the US.


Zinsky  
Aug 10, 2023

Comments:
kAmkAr,
This one is for you.
How do we measure the success of a foreign policy? More specifically, when it comes to sanctions. When and how do we know if it’s working or not? Even more specifically, what does it mean when we say it is working?
Most of us are educated professionals. We can’t work on any projects without understanding of goals, milestones and deadlines.


Farzad 
Aug 10, 2023

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Let me make you comfortable by giving you my answer. I do not have anything to back it up. But I don't think it is as random as we think. I also do not believe they are full blown spies. They are just good catches for swapping.


Farzad 
Aug 10, 2023

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Zinsky. Do you still believe that there was a legitimate reason (ex: espionage) about these dual citizens imprisoned in iran? Or was it just another baseless speculation?


Farzad 
Aug 10, 2023

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U.S. Reaches Deal With Iran to Free Americans for Jailed Iranians and Funds

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/10/us/politics/iran-us-prisoner-swap.html


kAmkAr 
Aug 10, 2023

Comments:
Scary!



kAmkAr 
Aug 10, 2023

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Don't miss Sao Paulo vs San Lorenzo coming up in 90 minutes. It promises to be a great game. Sao Paulo lost the away game 1-0 to the Argentine side in the first game.


kAmkAr 
Aug 10, 2023

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Zinsky, I actually learn a lot during these discussions. That's why I stay out of it. Most of what's said among the two of you is what I kind of knew but could never put them in words the way you guys do. I feel like you both heard each other and you both have more respect for where you're standing. 


Zinsky 
Aug 10, 2023

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kAmkAr jaan,

I don't know if you had a chance to look/read all massages for the past couple of days. 

I keep saying we are saying the same thing in different ways, but no one would listen. I know most of us like to read our own massages and feel empowered about our wit and intelligent but there are arguments not worth having. 

I kind of know when I have reached the end of logical and useful argument. I hope most do as well...


Farzad 
Aug 10, 2023

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😂😂😂😀👆😀😀🤣🤣🤣🤣😆😆😆


Farzad 
Aug 10, 2023

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kAmkAr, your RV trip reminded me of this.  Imagine you are outside of Shahin's house. [biggrin][biggrin][biggrin]




Farzad 
Aug 10, 2023

Comments:
During Covid working from home and being on Zoom or Teams conference call, heard a few unpleasant sounds :-)
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