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Comments: This is what I heard from friends and family about AN during his time in office. He started a program to lend individuals (mainly regime supporters) money to start a business and hire people. In theory it sounded good but the problem started when 95% of these startups were fake. They used the money to buy land and supposedly build factories or other businesses. Very quickly afterwards, they sold the land for profit, took the money and left Iran. That was the start of the massive migration to Canada and Australia. All these people who basically stole from the country ended up very rich and bought 1/3 of Toronto.
Comments: $50 billion/year maybe!!! My point is simple. When talking about a regime like IRI, it’s important to be accurate. When you say 800 and it ended up being almost half, you lose credibility. You give them and supporters an excuse to say, you are full of it. Not to compare but that is the way Trump operates. He discredits his opponents by finding small mistakes and use that to his defense. He doesn’t talk about his mistakes, only what they might have missed about his crimes. That is what lawyers do very well. Create doubt and discredit the other side.
Comments: 2nd term of Bush II and 1st term of Obama!
Comments: Another thing I didn’t know. There was no sanctions on IRI during AN? Do you know why? We’re there acting normal as a regime during AN?
Comments: Your math is correct. I got about the same thing. From this calculations I actually thought Farzad was close enough for the purpose of his argument. The way you objected I thought it was 50 billion
Comments: 2.4B barrel/day! I’m assuming you mean million not billion. 2.4 million X 80/barrel is $192 million/day. I don’t know if we should consider the revenue as “sell price - cost” or not but let’s move on with sales. 192X360 is about $70 billion/year. 8 years in office makes it $553 billion overall. Now let’s do revenue. Iran has some of the least expensive cost to extract oil. It’s about $10/barrel. With that in mind the revenue will be $485 billion for 8 years. Please check my math. I’m getting old and basic math is not as easy! It’s a lot of money. I’m sure most of it was stolen and shipped to other countries and used to feed the proxies. Still, it’s about half of $800 billion. It’s always good to do the math before making a case.
Comments: Actually I checked the average oil price for those years was $80/barrel
Comments: https://youtu.be/Qn0ej0YMABk
Comments: Zinsky: You had a link below for crude oil export and i just went and filtered for 2005-2013 (Ahmadinejad's time). Looks like average of 2.4B barrel/day. If you want you can do the math from here and lets assume $100/barrel (is it fair?) or even less and see how much was the income ![[Screenshot-2023-08-11-at-4-05-12-PM]](https://i.postimg.cc/TwnDVRWt/Screenshot-2023-08-11-at-4-05-12-PM.png)
Comments: Don't miss Inter Miami and Charlotte. 5:30 pm Apple TV.
Comments: I don't believe there is any country in the world that has any laws against begin pro-IRI or anti west. If there is any let me know. At best it might be a sin in someone's religion.
Comments: Inflation has fallen from more than 40% when Ahmadinejad left office to under 15%. The rial plummeted against other currencies, mainly the dollar, under his presidency. Rouhani’s economy minister, Ali Tayebnia, on Monday said the national debt stood at about $88bn (£57bn), noting: “No one knows the exact figure.” Ahmadinejad, in two terms, “had $800bn in oil revenue and gained $52bn – at the current exchange rate – from selling assets. But all we have inherited is large debts,” Tayebnia said.
Comments: Probably the right figure was 600 to 700 Billion. why was it equivalant to the past 100 years?, because oil was cheap. In 1971 oil was like 2.90 a barral. In 2010 it was over $100.
Comments: ok found this... The Central Bank of Iran reports oil exports during the 2005-2012 as $639 billion. That is what I said below, I gave him 200 billion dicount.
Comments: Keep googling. You will find it. It is all over. These are from horse's mouth. درآمدهای نفتی ايران از ابتدای پيروزی انقلاب تا پايان فعاليت دولت هشتم را حدود ۴۴۵ ميليارد و ۴۰۰ ميليون دلار. قبل از انقلاب اسلامی در دوره ۶۷ ساله (۱۲۹۰ تا ۱۳۵۷) مجموع درآمد نفتی ایران حدود ۱۳۲ میلیارد دلار بوده است ۱۳۲ + ۴۴۵ = ۵۸۵ میلیارد Ahmadinejad had دولت هشتم و نهم What he made in his tenure according to the statistics from IRI was near 800 billions. Let's say it was not 800 billion. And let's give him 200 billion discount. Let's say he made 600 billion. This was still more than 585 billion made before him in the history of oil income in iran mentioned.
Comments: Farzad: Not sure what happened but it was probably one of those that I zigged and you did not zag said by Silva and Haaland was trying to justify. At the end Pep agreed with Silva |
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