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Comments: "...so I do not mind the Neocon angle from you ![[smile]](https://cdn.websitetoolbox.com/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif "Smile - :)") .."That has been my only talking points in the past 8 years. I never stopped saying Trump is anti war. As soon as I saw Kagan and Kristol endorsing Hillary in 2016, I was done with her. Same group of people who tried to cancel, impeach, and character assasinate her husband. They have no business to be around democrats. Or I should say, Democrats have no business to be around them.
Comments: "MAGA normally do not talk Neocons" Because NEOCON is not something that everyone understands. The only place you hear discussions about it is either in Bill Maher's show or some of the in depth podcasts on who they are. Lex Fridman had one in-depth about them. Our own Zinsky thought Neocon is a character like Pokemon.
You cannot talk to hillbillies about Neocon Republicans. You have to keep the term "Republicans" sacred. You can't say there are bad Republicans like the way I do with you guys. That confuses the fuck out of his base. Even when he talks abortion, you can clearly see what his position is. He is just careful and kind of talks from both sides of his mouth when it comes to abortion. You ask me, he has probably paid for a few abortions himself. Instead in front of his base he calls Harris extreme Liberal. Which she absolutely is not by definition. More he uses the term liberals or extreme liberals, more he gets brownie points by his base.
Comments: Again, we have to base it on when he was predsident. You talk as if he it is his first time becoming president. At worse he will be like 2017-2021. Covid did him in, otherwise he would have been done in the next 5 months. Many democrats who actually follow him now do find him more moderate and mellower. Plus politics was a new arena for him, I also think he learned from those 4 years too. Sky did not fall when he was president. Things were ok and smooth. Economy good, job market good, and no war started or instigated, no controversial laws were put in place. Yeah maybe the so called "Muslim Ban" but the ban was set in motion by Obama’s administration. In December 2015, Obama signed into law the Terrorist Travel Prevention Act, which designated Iraq, Iran, Syria, Yemen, Sudan, Libya and Somalia as areas of concern. He was criticized for it. And it was because of that Act that Rana Rahimpour of BBC could not enter USA because she was born in iran. And that happened January of 2016.
Comments: Anyway, I will call. you on it when I feel you are giving MAGA talking point. MAGA normally do not talk Neocons so I do not mind the Neocon angle from you
Comments: The only time I really advocated strongly for the democratic nominee was and is when Trump is on the ballet. Most of the time I have kept to myself. Trump is a disgusting man with no moral compass and he will do whatever benefit him personally. He will make deal with whoever on whatever
Comments: But Shahin. The other side does exactly the same thing. No democrat challenged Hillary for what she said. Bernie called Hillary a warmonger but then endorsed her. That is the party line commitment. As a matter of fact I admire your loyalty to the party. That is noble. It is just that I believe the party is drifting to a place where it will disintegrate. And contrary to it, to some extend unconditional support may create some level of unrealistic bias and extremism.
Comments: No my point was about Trumpism. For whatever reason be even partisanship reasons, you have to buy into it, like: Elections were stolen, all the immigrants are rapists, Kim writes me beautiful letters, Putin said no way, I said way, Harris is a DEI hire, etc. You cannot get away with it
Comments: "That’s why republicans like Graham, Cruz, Rubio, McConnell, etc all support him" Can you tell me why he does not have support of other republicans like Romney Kagan Kristol or McCain? Anyways. You know the answer. But here is some facts about the names you mentioned. Because I know these mother fuckers. Graham, McConnell, Rubio and Haley are leaning Neocon. These shrewd Republicans plant seeds everywhere. Yesterday I mentioned Al Gore's running mate Joe Lieberman. He was a mole. There is no question in my mind he was seeded by the Neocons. Just in case the other side (GWB / Cheney) does not win. And this was after the big blackmail with Bill Clinton. And then Lieberman officially joins the neoconservative Republicans two years later. So yes these guys endorse and do all kinds of things but the are around. Like how both Bolton and Haley were in the admin and both fired by Trump. Haley earlier this year said there is no way she will endorse trump. But now she is. Not for the reason you mentioned. She and other neocons are there for other interests.
Comments: Shahin. Mind bugging. "That’s why republicans like Graham, Cruz, Rubio, McConnell, etc all support him" Isn't that true when Bernie endorsed Biden?. Wasn't that true actually when Tulsi endorsed Biden in 2020 even though she hates Harris' guts? They go with party line. Both parties do. You watch 2020 primary debate everyone is at each other's throat. But then they all endorse the guy from the party. That's a very normal thing.
Comments: Hillary said that once, she should not have said it she should have apologized. Trump after all these years still saying it. I really do not care about Maher he has found a niche in people like you. DEI is a detailed discussion but saying Kamala was a DEI hire is racist
Comments: About DEI, Yes the way Biden introduced and portrayed her maybe it did. "Kamala Harris makes history as 1st Black, Indian-American, woman to be vice president". I don't pay attention to these things... Question to you: Is there something wrong with DEI? Isn't DEI an encouraging good thing? Is it an offensive term? Does it imply not genuine? Is DEI considered qualified, but with lower Standards?
Comments: About MAGA package: "...all undocumented illegals are rapists". Shahin of course they say this. Now this is about illegal immigrants. See what Hillary said about Legal American citizens: Trump's supporters are in a "basket of deplorables" Is that ok??... You know, Maher actually said the exact same thing, that when you open your mouth and say anything you want to Trump supporters but then object to anything anyone says about illegal immigrants, you are a "woke crap". Harris and Biden were at each other's throat during 2020 primaries with harris almost calling him a racist. This is politics. Have you seen Obama and Hillary going at one another in the debate? Trust me if you listen to it your reaction will be what a Bitch!!, what an asshole! Anyways... these are ordinary people. They are in a bascket of deplorables is not a right thing to say to half of your own people. Specially when it comes out from a former First Lady. You lead by example. Listen what Harris says... gZGViYXRl
Comments: Yeah. Harris is not the issue. She is irrelevant. She is just the facade of a bigger agenda. All she has to do is execute. Again these are coming from our fellow democrats. These are literate good people. Sure not a leftist extremist like woke people are but a very level headed democrat. https://youtube.com/shorts/HF5-dtRt7wA?si=nmZgJSBG4mMr1DaB
Comments: Along with all undocumented illegals are rapists. This is MAGA package for you
Comments: I am talking about MAGA saying Harris is a DEI hire not Hollywood films. |
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