چاکر آقا سعید. 

For those who do not know I had the pleasure of meeting Agha Saeed. We went to Moby Dick in DC. One common thing between Saeed and KAmkAr is that they are both Ghotbi fans.  Our differences are, Daei, Dariush khan, and Mobali 😀😀😀😀

About the other site what can I say.  Sina wrapped it all well.  At the end what I can say is that their thought process and political views are the same. Sympathy towards IRI is what is common among them.  

کند همجنس با همجنس پرواز، کبوتر با کبوتر باز با باز 

And as Cyrus said coexistence is no longer an option. I can’t be on the same page with Keefer, Rahim, Reza, and other antisemitists or pro IRI.  That is my red line. 

Remember Shahin keep preaching it is ok to be anti Trump and anti IRI at the same time. Anyways the anti Zionist voted for a Zionist. 😀

 

Even Zan Zendegi Azadi revolution was something instigated by outsiders.  They are aligned on theses and ok with me… just don’t bring their shit here. 

And my only difference with Shahin is that he takes them seriously and to me they are simply off (معیوب) and koskhol.  I don't take them seriously. And of course I don't socialize with these Koskhols. Not these kind of nafhams. 

Saeed

 

Seeking out different perspectives and implementing shared thinking has hardly been an Iranian trait!

 

Trying to make sense of current issues of two IFPs without consideration of the last 25 years is pointless.

 

Discussion boards by essence are not that different from پاتوق coffee shops and clubhouses. A gathering place of some community members to form community of their own community around common interests.

 

For a long time football served that common interest, and it helped for IFP stay intact as majority of members rooted for the same team and renewed their nostalgic memories. As political repression in the country became more widespread and illusions started fading away for those who were still willing to give a chance for “ improvement “ , polarization of the commune started to grow as it did in the motherland.

 

Political loyalties or feelings of membership community became more obvious and transparent

 

The boiling point was during the green movement when tens if not hundreds of martyrs were labeled agents of outsiders, including زنده ياد ندا آقا سلطان.

 

When the admin of the time accused those killed to be performing for BBC and the movement being instigated by Mujahedin, coexistence was no longer an option.

 

His desire to control minds and thoughts, freaking out at the fact that “ his site” was being banned by his beloved revolutionary government and almost every single action he took or notes he posted was demonstrative of his leaning towards the government that was and kept on killing our youth, repressing lives.

 

Hence the split!

 

We are all individuals with different perspectives and almost none of us a major player in the world of politics. Being tolerant of ideas, specially by a moderator, takes a strong discipline and conviction.

 

I’m glad that I see some of it here. It is probably obvious that I have my points common beliefs with the current members as well as major ideological differences. But at least the distinction of خودى " regulars” vs غير خودى doesn’t apply here.

 

The only reason that you see more of a unison voice over there is because نصفشون خودشونن and the fact the IRI troll is playing with them and steering them to a certain direction. Also unfortunately the only potentially progressive person over there, has decided that the 25 year old hatred towards couple of members here and his loyalty to his “ virtual cousin “, trump his value and bring out his bully side.

 

 

Yes, we are drifting in unity as is our society back home.

 

Call it جبر زمانه،, if you will

 

 

Bottom line, we are not political parties. More like coffee shops with about total of less than 10 tea drinkers!

 

Personally, I would feel embarrassed and uncomfortable to be in a coffeehouse with a barista with the history of support for tyrants!