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Comments: It's common mistake people make when they say Iran boycotted the 980 Olympics. In reality the IOC suspended Iran from the Olympics and did not allow them to participate. The IRI just used the ban as a way to get a point with people about standing with fellow Muslims in Afghanistan. Javad Khibani finally exposed the truth in his "tarikh varseh iran' last year. Very good series.
Comments: شاهین. مامانت مثل جاهل ها حرف میزنه. من فکر کنم تریلی هیجده چرخ هم بتونه برونه
Comments: This morning I watched an Iranian movie named مغز استخوان with Taraneh Alidoosti. 90% of Iranian movies end with no solid conclusions. It's like we should figure out the ending. Might be worth watching.
Comments: I meant Zinsky I wrote Shahin. Although I agree with both.
Comments: Shahin, I feel exactly and 500% the same about those who support Trump and IRI. I have a colleague with a PHD degree. When Trump came down the stairs back in 2015 this guy made it look like an angel from heaven has fallen on earth. To this day he's a supporter. I'm still thinking WHY? Same goes to those who support IRI. I do not believe that either one of those sides are patriots of their countries.
Comments: kAmkAr Jaan, As always real and to the point. As I said before, I can’t argue with you since I’m in line with your thinking in most cases and can’t argue with people I have nothing in common. I can discuss things with people I have 70-75% in common and 25-30% not! It’s difficult to start from total opposite ends. That’s why I don’t engage with Trump supporters. I just don’t know where to start. That is true with IRI supporters (real supporters). There are some who pretend to support the regime but only doing it to be noticed.
Comments: I guess you got my point. I should stop writing while eating and watching football.
Comments: Well said Shahin. He brings a lot of knowledge him your in depth discussions. The best part of it was like I said, the civility and the informative nature of the back and forth Q&A.
Comments: Anyway having him talking with us here is much better than not posting at all. This site we do 5 or 6 dimensional arguments ![[smile]](https://cdn.websitetoolbox.com/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif "Smile - :)")
Comments: Thanks kAmkAr:
But he is very persistent with us here
Comments: Shahin, I do read the other side once a day and I do notice that Zinsky opposes some people's views there. But the difference is that some parties in the other site do not like discussing the issues in so much depth.
Comments: Still busy but quick note: Zinsky: You come here and argue like hell on the 25% (your word) that we disagree with, but let the real people there that support status quo, get away with things. It is not about them but really about you. Get the courage to tell them what you really believe even if it will stir some shit and disrupt the damet garm club
Comments: Fun fact or whatever you call it! 1980 IRI banned the Russian Olympics because the Soviets had invaded Afghanistan. 42 years later Russians invade Ukraine and IRI aids them. Is that a 360 or what?
Comments: Shahin, I can take your request to go to other site and argue with them two ways! 1- you are tired of my BS here which I could understand 😎 2- you find my argument skills good enough to make a difference on the other site!!! Either way, I’ll keep posting here and there and do my best to fight the injustice!
Comments: I thought I did! Zinsky an hour ago Comments: I sure can and have before but one more time won’t hurt. We know the effects of sanctions and they are obviously painful for most people. I know, I know, it’s not sanctions but the regime. I agree. No argument there but sanctions are also giving the government an excuse to do even worse. We don’t know the effect of “no sanctions at all”! We tried it here and there in Iran. Giving them few months here, few months there but never let it run long enough to make an assessment. It could turn out to be a disaster. It could make things worse. It could blow up in our face but we really don’t know, do we? I know you will bring up few billions released to them and most, if not all was stolen. That is true. I agree. My point on sanctions (relief) is to just lift it (don’t pay them cash). Give it a year or two. What is the worst that could happen in 2 years that hasn’t happened in 40? I don’t know if no sanctions could help people. I really don’t but not even considering it is what I find odd. If someone with a crystal ball comes along and tells me the future is even more bleak without sanctions, I would withdraw my statement. Finally, the USA has been using the sanctions not to get Iranians any relief. As you mentioned, it’s a way to control behavior of the regime. They always have an excuse to loosen the sanctions when needed! What’s the point? What benefit have we seen so far for Iran or Iranians? |
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