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Comments: Wow......wow.... wow... don't tell me this is not CNN, MSNBC AND MORNING JOE What will happen now in US? Will democracy be intact or our elections will become as meaningless as Iran & Pakistan? Will American people that are no longer all white able to coexist with immigrants? What about 40 million people that are on government subsidized healthcare, will they able to still keep their coverage with all the pre existing conditions? What happens to environmental concerns and laws will Trump change those? Are you serious ? Wasn't he the president 4 years ago? Did any of these nonsense happened? Weren't the biggest undocumented deportation done by Obama? Didn't he say in the debate that I am not changing Obamacare? Did he dismantle department of education during his term? Isn't RFK Jr an environmentalist? Or Dick Cheney is? Did consumer affairs agencies dismantle? Why don't you list all the things he dismantled during his presidency. These are signs of being fanatic. I am so sorry I have to say that. This is ultra ideologic. These are just bunch of hallucinating nonsense. I am so sorry again by saying this. But it is. The sign is all over the place. Why only the Neocon sect of the Republican Party been endorsing Hillary, Biden, and Harris?. Please answer? Why only Neocon warmongers? Why not the rest of the republicans? You want the whole world in war and chaos with millions dead and under existential threat because you are worried about department of education closing? Come on man!
Comments: But to respect your questions, I refer to democratic candidate RFK Jr. Yeah I know he is anti vaxer, killed a bear, and presumably a Russian agent to your eyes since that's all you guys focus on but he blamed the American neocons for the Ukraine conflict and declared that Trump’s promise to reopen negotiations with Russia and end the war as soon as he took office were reason enough to endorse the former president’s campaign.REASON ENOUGH TO CROSS THE AISLE. FOR MANY DEMOCRATS NOT JUST ORDINARY DEMOCRAT VOTERS, THIS IS THE BIGGEST EXISTENTIAL ISSUE ON HAND. While the woke fuck is masterbating on how many hundreds of genders there are and how many spare dicks they need. But please read, he wraps it up well. There was a peace agreement between Russia and Ukraine. Biden sent Boris Johnson to unkraine to convince Zelenskyy to tear it. (And it is not Russian propaganda). How soon as a liberal Democrat you forgot Neocons propaganda for justifying attacking Iraq because they Saddam had weapon of mass destruction. I HAVE NO DOUBT YOU FELL FOR THAT TOO. The same Neocons which you were fighting against but now lookin the other way: BOBBY KENNEDY: “The military-industrial complex has provided us with a familiar comic-book justification as they do with every war. This one is a noble effort to stop a super-villain named Vladimir Putin from invading Ukraine and to thwart his Hitler-like march across Europe. In fact,” Kennedy Jr said, “tiny Ukraine is a proxy in a geopolitical struggle initiated by the ambitions of the US neocons for American global hegemony.” “The war is the predictable response of Russia to the neocon project to expand NATO and encircle Russia. We unilaterally walked away from two intermediate nuclear weapons treaties with Russia and then put nuclear weapons systems in Romania and Poland. This is a hostile, hostile act. And the Biden White House repeatedly spurned Russia’s offers to settle this war peacefully,” Kennedy Jr said. “The Ukraine war,” he continued, “began in 2014 when US agencies overthrew the democratically elected government of Ukraine and installed a hand-picked pro-Western government that launched a deadly civil war against ethnic Russians in Ukraine. In 2019, America walked away from a peace treaty, the Minsk Agreement, that had been negotiated between Ukraine and Russia and the European nations. In April 2022, we wanted the war. President Biden sent [then UK prime minister] Boris Johnson to Ukraine to force President [Volodymyr] Zelensky to tear up a peace agreement that he and the Russians had already signed, and the Russians were already withdrawing troops.” “That peace agreement,” Kennedy added, “would have brought peace to the region and allowed Donbass to remain part of Ukraine.” Now is he lying because he is anti vaxxer, is he lying because Harris did not give him a job?, Is he lying because he killed a bear, is he lying because he is the voice of Russia propaganda. Do we have to ignore what he said and focus on Morning Joe? What part of what is said above is not true?
Comments: Farzad: You called my ideas naive and I did not take it personally, I am saying the same thing.
Comments: Come on shahin what is this you wrote. There is no room for any intellectual discussions. Russian propaganda. How soon you forgot Neocon propaganda. Is that the only thing you got to counter the points?. I can't participate discussing these nonsense. It is either someone is anti Vaxxer and should not be listened to or it is Russian propaganda and not be read, and or it is project 2025 and MAGA disinformation deplorable. Sorry I can't participate in these childish korkori stuff.
Comments: KAmkAr very good question. I will explain. Will be a bit long. Agree about Trump being responsible for certain things. As Lex Fridmen said you "he did lots of right things and said lots of wrong things". But will explain. Bottom line is that the media has made a situation that even super liberals / anti republicans of the page look at Cheney as a little Bambie.
Comments: DC: I have to say that what I admire the most about Kamala Harris is that here is a very capable person who has obviously held back for 3.5 years and not sought the limelight and done her job. That shows a lot of character and no wonder the party was so quick to line up behind her. I remember DC used to make a lot of sarcastic comments, so I'm assuming (and hoping) this was also sarcasm! BTW, studies have shown that "Morning Joe", like "Long Covid", may cause symptoms of brain fog, dizziness, GI complications, and loss of brain cells. Just a friendly warning. ;-)
Comments: Shahin thank you, hope you and family are doing well too.
Comments: Unhinged today in Nevada. Just follow this guy with clips https://x.com/Acyn
Comments: He will send ICE, DHS and other federal officials to go in & liberate Aurora. But he does not like foreign wars. This is a sick man https://x.com/Acyn/status/1834795628360307027
Comments: Meantime lets assume Trump is the president and will tell Putin and Bibi to end the wars, and they oblige and world is saved.What will happen now in US? Will democracy be intact or our elections will become as meaningless as Iran & Pakistan? Will American people that are no longer all white able to coexist with immigrants? What about 40 million people that are on government subsidized healthcare, will they able to still keep their coverage with all the pre existing conditions? What happens to environmental concerns and laws wil Trump change those? With supreme court not representative of the majority of people what happens to the existing laws on the books, do they get over turned like abortion rights? What will happen to public schools when there will no longer be a department of education? What happens when the consumer affairs agencies are dismantled? The expectation that the domestic issues do not matter is actually is very self misguided and much more harmful in long term
Comments: Farzad: Your expectations that all of sudden people accept your argument and start voting for Trump in numbers when they see such flawed candidate is unreasonable in my opinion As far as Ukraine, I am sorry but you are falling for Russian propaganda to be frank. The expectation to just let Russians have their way with Ukraine was something the Europeans could not accept. I still have not heard a coherent explanation from you as what would have happened next after Putin made Ukraine as part of Russian territory. Would Poland and rest of old soviet block be in danger. The expansion of NATO is not the will of just US, these countries want to prosper and be able to withstand a Russian threat
Comments: Excuse the mistakes due to my fat finger syndrome.
Comments: Farzad, a couple things comes to mind after reading your comments. First you claim that the media's propaganda is doing it's job in turning people against Trump. To a small degree, I agree but the biggest propaganda against Trump is Trump himself. He just needs to stop sounding so stupid. Another point is that, although I do agree with your notion if the warmongers in the current administration, I wonder why is it that the Republicans and Trump do not focus on these wars that are going on and white they not telling people about the war plan that was supposed to start with Hillary?
Comments: This is my view, please all of you read. I don't have to repeat. But what started in this admin upon coming to the power, was supposed to start in 2017 with Hillary as president. Trump surprisingly / accidentally won the 2016 election. What is happening now was paused for 4 years while he was president. This instigation of Ukraine war is a pretty scary shit, America is playing with lion's tail. This can have subsequential effect. This ain't no joke. And that is where the Neocons dictating for the benefit of Military industrial complex and their own pocket. I have posted articles on how neocons penetrated and found an alternative through Democratic Party. Biden was one of the most instrumental person in taking US to Iraq war. Together with Dick Cheney and Bush doctrine. It is evident and there is no doubt in anyone's mind including all of you anti trump guys that Neocons are also functioning in this administration. You just looking the other way. This election is not about democrats or Republicans, An agenda finally started 4 years ago and it has to continue, it cannot stop and anyone coming blocking it or interfering with it has to be eliminated. The notion of if Harris comes things will change as Harris is Harris and different than Biden is just such a naive bullshit and simple way of thinking. Harris is part of the gang. What started has to continue. By someone with same mindset. It really took the unification of the establishment in 2001 to unanimously attack Iraq on false bases. And it only takes someone outside of the establishment to fight it but there is no strong person or party out there who can stop that. You are eaten live. And here is Trump. Trump is not a politician. We all know it. But he knows about what the Fuck has been going on since GWB era. The only thing he has is his way of saying anything without a filter and be loud and vocal about exposing what is happening. And that attracts people. And the establishment is doing everything to stop him from coming and altering what has started. Simple as that. This election is not about civil Liberty, abortion, fall of democracy, , gender rights, unemployment and all. This is about the continuation of Neocon warmonger agenda and the election is about shall they continue with their agenda or shall these warmongers be stopped. They also have the media, they try to focus on some issues which does not even exists. And make humongous issue out of certain things just to manipulate people. Again we are entering in an uncharted territory, there is a very dangerous thing happening in the world which you all are ignoring. You separate this international issue with domestic stuff. The potential impact of what is happening will have consequential affect on not only American people but the whole world. The media attached to them which happens to be the mainstream media is at their disposal. They do anything to dishoner, belittle, and character assassinate the individuals. And they do a good job. Just look at you guys. All I see you guys posting is the crap fed by MSNBS, and CNN. With the intent of making you to dislike him personally and make that the main base of your decision. Vote against Trump. But the reality is something else. I am sorry I say this and by no means this is coming as insults, but your views on what's happening (MSNBC, CNN, ABC, and..) is very Naive. Very Naive. And that is because the propaganda is doing its job. It did its job on you. I am just being honest. There are so many alternative to mainstream media. Excellent podcast by people with liberal views. That is why my discussions are not about Kamala and nor Trump. My discussions have been as Ali.P said to awaken you on what is really going on in the world. I do confess I can't compete with mainstream media. Let's stop destroying the world and killing of innocent people. What is happening is not cool. As the same media does not report the extent of what's happening in terms of loss of innocent lives in this Ukraine war. Over 500,000 killed and it will be further escalated. If that happens nothing else matters. That's my main basis for voting this year. It is not about being pro trump. It is really being against about what is going on now. I wish there was some other outside establishment persons other than Trump. We saw what they did with RFK Jr. Immediately the first reaction is, he is anti-vaxer. So fucking what? he has reasons for it.
Comments: Cyruss, I noticed that today. He was fighting people on the sidelines. If you're interested in watching a good game, Liga MX Tigres-San Luis just started. |
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