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Comments: It is not about me...not about Jill Stein... what is common is they are saying the same thing about what is happening to their beloved party. These are all democrats who voted Hillary and Biden, but see strange things happening now. RFK jr campained for both Hillary and Obama. Obama considered him for the head of EPA in his admin. Tulsi was a Vice-chair of DNC. These guys are not traiters, They are not the so called Trumpies, They are avid supporters of Democratic Party. But they do see their party taken hostage. It is like me telling you, you are getting closer to Cheney, McCain, Romney, Kristol, and Kagan. It will be so wrong of me telling you that. Because I know you. You have nothing in common with them. Just like the other Democrats who left, you also believe in the same Democratic values. You know better that you have nothing in common with the names of criminals mentioned above. It is just that these democrats are closer to the party and they see whats happening and they are wittnessing strange things. The values they believe in is no different than yours. They may even adhere to those values more than you. But they do differ with Harris, Biden, DNC, and other Corporate democrats.
Comments: Tulsi, Tucker Carlson, Glenn Greenwald and Jill Stein. You are getting closer
Comments: Political systems in liberal democratic countries are mostly based on binary systems. US certainly is one of them. Any discontent if genuine, should be dealt with before or after primaries. If not and in particular if during general election, discontent means support for the opposite party. As an example, right now, if any one criticize democratic ticket for whatever reason, it means they are supporting Trump, but afraid to say it publicly due to his baggage.
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Comments: Shahin regarding Ghassem Check. All democrats and presidential candidates including Biden and Pelosi condemned killing of Haj Ghassem. Mainly for not getting congress involved and for potential escalation. Keep in mind Tulsi and many others we are talking about are avid supporters of the real Democratic Party. All endorsed Biden in 2020. Saw Jill Stein posting something about DNC. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/03/iran-general-killing-democrats-reaction
Comments: These democrats are fighting to get their beloved party back. Democrat Dr. Bret Weinstein crosses the aisle. "I think the modern Democratic Party is an existential threat to our republic and although I am a democrat, I have been a democrat all my life, the party I see in front of me today is literally inverse of the party I signed up for. It is now the party of war, this is the party of racism, this is the party of censorship, I don't recognize this party. ...."
Comments: Sven Ericksson ex-England,Mexico and Man City manager passed away from pancreatic cancer
Comments: On a side note someone reminded me that Tulsi's Ghassem check was positive ![[smile]](https://cdn.websitetoolbox.com/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif "Smile - :)")
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Comments: If Trump loses this time around,the crazy Trumpers might do much more than attacking the capital. It will get scary.
Comments: I totally dig that neo cons are war mongering faction. I’m very naive on these things, but wondering that neocons came to political existence about 25-30 years ago and emerged as a factor in political landscape. Didn’t US politicians and political establishment engage in any wars before that? My point is neocon or not, the major general direction is and has been set . Incoming presidents can only make minor changes in the direction. To portray Trump as anti war is not a genuine picture to me. He will be at the service of various factions such as military industry complex and AIPAC as would Harris ! At least for me, it comes down to domestic issues and character. I’m more concerned about the future. Harris or Trump, there would not be any love affair or genuine care for the people of Iran. Harris and Trump , there may be a difference in environmental issues, judicial landscape, equity, advancement of racist movements,…… And that being said, I have ordered my lawn sign: No-one 2024 And I leave it to my kids to vote or not for their future!
Comments: Farzad, a suggestion: Change ليگ آفتابه لگن to ليگ آوارگان More than two thirds of our “ professional league” teams have to play their home games away from home!
Comments: Rejecting fellow Democrat is one thing, accepting and welcoming endorsement of neocons is another.
Comments: “This is what these ex-Republicans are saying including good amount that worked for him”
Comments: Shahin, all you talk about is Trump. All DNC talked about was Trump. You talk about Trump being unfit. you also know deep down that Harris is not fit and also a puppet. That is why there is nothing for me to debate about Harris vs Trump. Nothing. It is not about her. It is about something totally bigger and well devised, IMO.
In terms of civil Liberty, abortion and stuff, you have Liberals like Tulsi and RFK. Jr adding another dimension to this candidate. Trump truly is not a Republican as he voted Democrat before, notably Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton. That is pretty much it. But to get there you need votes. Any which way legally you can. Some things you can say in campaigns, some you can’t. You essentially have to make your campaign message binary and simple. This or that! Civil Liberty or Hitler. Wars or Making America Great Again. |
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