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Comments: No good deed goes unpunished.
Comments: I was really saddened by the story that Cyruss wrote about the village that was hijacked and the Palestinians got a token of thank you from the Jews by getting kicked out.
Comments: KamkAr... that miserable condition translated to billions of dollars for them, while ordinary people of Gaza are suffering. sounds familiar? Leaders of Hamas: Marzook is considered one of Hamas's wealthiest billionaires. "Arab sources estimate his wealth at $2-3 billion," Another Hamas leader-turned-tycoon is Khaled Mashaal. "Estimates around the world are that Mashaal is currently worth $2.6 billion, but the numbers mentioned by the Arab commentators (based on their many sources) are much higher, varying from $2-5 billion invested in Egyptian and Persian Gulf banks, and some in real estate projects in the Persian Gulf countries," Elad adds. The next tycoon on the list is Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh. "He is a scion of a family from the Al-Shati refugee camp, and his capital is estimated at $4 million," Elad says, adding, "He registered most of his assets in the Gaza Strip in the name of his son-in-law, Nabil, and in the name of a dozen of his sons and daughters and a few less well known Hamas leaders. They all have homes in good neighborhoods in the Gaza Strip, where the value of every home is at least $1 million." According to the Asharq Al-Awsat (Middle East) newspaper, one of the most prestigious in the Arab world, recently reported that at least 600 millionaires were living in the Gaza Strip - the same people sitting on the money pipelines there.
Comments: Kamkar, ok. Islamic brotherhood. Same shit as ISIS. As Cyruss said they are all the same animal. He listed them all.
Comments: I think what Hamas leaders did was equivalent of recruiting and sending suicide bombers
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Comments: Farzad, I don't think you can find isis and basij in one setting together. Isis has never acted any acts against Israel. They're the cowards who wage wars only against moslems. You're both right. The faith of people in Gaza is indeed in the hands of Hamas. But what other choices do they have? Hamas come from Gaza and are raised in the miserable conditions created by Israel.
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Comments: kAmkar,
What Shahin is saying is exactly what you described about F-35 , they know the consequence of what they did and what will come to them. So I agree with Shahin that Hamas is responsible for the fate of the people in Gaza. What happned saturday was not that just ordinary people crossed the line and came to show their anger. This was Hamas, may have included thugs of ISIS, and we also heard farsi speaking people so there were Iranian basiji people too. Hamas is disliked by 73% of palastenians.
Comments: No Kamkar, you are not coming too strong. I agreed with you that they are desperate
Comments: Shahin, if it was a normal circumstance and if they were at par with Israelis, you'd be right. But there is no balance between the two parties at war. One side has F-35 and the other is flying paraglider. Like I said, they have nothing to lose. They've already seen the death and the distruction all their lives. I'm sorry if I'm coming in as extreme but facts are facts.
Comments: Yes Shahin, I heard the speech from the old guy reading the script from his mentors.
Comments: Kamkar: Yes people are desperate but Hamas leadership has a responsibility to what is in reality mass suicide. This is not how you lead a group of people
Comments: Looks like Blinken is going to Israel this week so perhaps this will be to somewhat negotiate without getting Biden & Bibi directly involved
Comments: Pretty emphatic statement by Biden in support of Israel. Nothing about what is going on inside Gaza. Face value, giving Israel green light to do what it wants to do. I know it is election time in US and otherwise Republicans will score major points. I am hoping behind the seen Biden admin is trying to defuse some of the situation like cutting off food and utilities |
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