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Comments: Shahin, as I mentioned the podcast that Lex Fridman had with RFK in the very beginning touches on Russia and Putin. Like the first 5 min. https://youtu.be/NPtBkw5uD-0?si=ZmxLaMZdn9H76Auk
Comments: Globalism in terms of economics is a great idea. And even sounds good on surface. No question about that. But like anything else it does have underlying details which raises eyebrows. Over the past few years, globalization and the international expansion have empowered other countries like China and India, while the United States has been on the decline. Not the greatest model for Strong America. Unless you are average Z and strong America is irrelevant to you. In the world of Globalism China and India are considered developing countries. Like are you fucking kidding me? One is number 2 and the other is number 5 largest economy. And you know what that means? When it came to Paris accord (clean air) they don't contribute Jack shit. They don't have to comply and they don't have to pay and they are exempt. US pays for them. That is wrong. That is why Trump left the accord.
Comments: Shahin "So the Neocons were working hard to benefit IRI?" My answer is very simple to that question. Neocons have one interest. And that interest is not national interest of the United States. Their main interest is Military Industrial Complex, Halliburtons and ..... it is to the benefit of certain industries and certain individuals... and yes Neocons were 100% in charge during GWB / Cheney. Project for the New American Century authored by the masters of neocons, Bill Kristol and Robert Kagan explains it all https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century#:~:text=It%20said%20the%20United%20States,prosperity%2C%20and%20our%20principles%22.
Comments: NATO is not going anywhere. Putin did not want to invade Ukraine. He was instigated. He invaded Ukraine twice. Obama time and Biden time (let's call it Neocon time. As much as Obama tried to kick the mother fuckers out they came back in some other way). And I admit they are everywhere. Nikki Haley's or Rubios for example who are supposedly pro Trump are Neocon. But Neocons are smart. They plant seeds elsewhere. 2000 election is another example. Somehow the main Neocon (Joe Lieberman) became Al Gore's running mate. Just in case GWB / Cheney don't make it. That's how they operate. It all started with "Russia Reset" in GWB era. Trump winning election (which he himself couldn't believe) was a disruption to that Russia Reset continuity. That is why in that election Bernie Sanders, although ahead, was pushed aside in favor of Neocon friendly Hillary. Democrats lost the election exactly because of this. Bernie would have been the winner "hands down" with a landslide against Trump. But Bernie would not have done Neocons any good. He was as bad as Trump in terms of choices for Neocons. "Russia Reset" is defined as regime change in Russia and toppling of Putin, for no major reasons. He wasn't doing anything. If anything he kept asking West to be part of the Western world. watch the first few minutes of Lex Friedman podcast with RFK. Regime change in Russia. That is what instigated everything.
Comments: I still do not understand or even believe in existence of neocones. May this be a made up theory of some liberals, which we know it is all bogus. I heard about it first time pre Iraq war. But I am not sure about it. In my opinion, Iraq was a big failure for US. The only beneficiary of Iraq war, was IRI. So the Neocons were working hard to benefit IRI? Globalism on the other hand, in my opinion is not a bad idea. It has made few poor countries extremly rich and powerful; India and China. Obviously, it has expanded capitalism.
Comments: Rumors within Trump circle is that RFK Jr and Tulsi Gabbard maybe appointed as CIA and DIA directors, respectively. Fits both of them well actually. Did not know, grabbing a banana by a U.S. soldier in a US base in Iraq costs $35 of taxpayers money.
Comments: Besides let Putin take over Ukraine and dismantle NATO, what is Trump and your position?
Comments: Shahin. What is Harris' position on what needs to be done in Ukraine? Forget about how but at least he said one thing "I will end it". What is Harris' position. I make a disclaimer, Harris has no position, I do know though what Neocons position is. About coverage on Neocons, you do not hear it on Mainstream. But a lot is covered on podcasts. In a campaign trail it is really difficult to discuss neocons and who they are and all that. Because it does not bring votes. The neocon discussion is mostly for people who are in politics a bit deeper. You can't go to a Wisconsin rally and talk neocons. Could become confusing and could derail things. Like an average Joe in a Republican state may say .. "wait a minute they are Republican too?, they must be good then". It is that simple. In contrast I don't think we will hear much bashing of Tulsi or RFK Jr by democrats. Because liberal democrats may not like it and it may backfire against them. Politics 101.
Comments: Farzad: I watch and read a lot of election coverage (including non-liberal stuff) and I see Neocon discussion here at least 10 times more than anywhere else. The issue is that your candidate and his side rarely discuss it and rather discuss culture clash issues because that is low hanging fruit for the base. I still have not heard a coherent discussion as what needs to be done in Ukraine and Israel from Trump beside the day I am elected, Putin and Bibi will make peace because I will tell them to
Comments: What I am actually thrilled about is that the term "Neocon" has actually became an everyday term in various mediums. Some really did not what it was. Who they were.
Comments: KAmkAr... there are good Democrats... and there are good Republicans... As I said before it is both parties that made USA what it became. UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Except that in the past 25 years things just went a different direction. With the enforcement of globalism we became very divided. It takes the goods of both parties to put United States back on track.
Comments: Again. You have the same think tanks offering the same type of suggestions strategies and resources to their candidate from their party. It is not a dictation. It is like... on a particular subject Harris may say.. hmmm.. not a bad idea.... let's hear more... . Or...about another subject the reaction maybe .... are you out of your mind... WTF is this ? happens to both parties. Neocons though are not just a think tank. They are embedded in the state department.
Comments: Farzad, there are no liberals in the US. In the US, the Democrats are conservative and the Republican are lunatics!
Comments: Average Z as opposed to average Joe. 😀 Love to see what you just wrote about Harris. Kick those mother fuckers out.
Comments: What is an average Z? ![[smile]](https://cdn.websitetoolbox.com/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif "Smile - :)") Harris will kick all these Neocons out when she gets elected just like Trump will kick out all these right wingers
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